With temperatures dipping into the 30s and still no overnight shelters in place to keep the unhoused warm, homeless advocates took matters into their own hands this week.

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CitizenJoe

That propane-heated enclosed space looks like an invitation to carbon monoxide poisoning and death.

Fine article; thank you, News-Review.

mword

I thought the same thing, CitizenJoe, and hoped it was open on one side. At least people were trying to help.

BetsyC

I suggest hot tents with vented woodstoves, at designated places for people to be. Although woodstoves create carbon monoxide, the stoves made for these can be used safely. That way they could all protect themselves much better in the future. Also these can protect everyone, not just those who make it to a warming center or shelter when it is 32 degrees and snowing.

Even better, we should quit trying to manage the problem of homelessness and start solve it with actual housing for everyone.

Nurse Bishop

The homeless are a real problem. In many places, America, the greatest nation this world has ever known is starting to look like a third world country. We have got to do something and not allow people to live on the street in garbage piles like rats, surrounded with trash, needles and feces. We can't just go around someone lying unconcious on the sidewalk. We should not have to avoid aggressive drug crazed individulas raving in the street. A lot of these people are incapable of taking care of themselves. Yet the ACLU and others lobby for laws that allow people so people can be free to be metally ill or street dwelling drunks, drug addicts and criminals. I don't blame the churches for not wanting to take this problem on, it is even dangerous for the usually elderly do gooders. "The homeless need homes" - Many, if not most citizens can hardly afford to keep their own homes and pay their property taxes.

Personally from what I have seen the homeless need to be rounded up, sorted out and helped. The ones just down on their luck, homeless because they lost their job, they need to be given a boost to get a home and a job again. The mentally ill need to go to mental hospital to be given their medicine. Because they stop taking their meds once back on the street. The drunk and addicted need expensive rehab programs payed for by the taxpayers. But many if not most go right back to drugs as soon as they get out. They go back to expensive rehab multiple times.They, too, need to be penned up on something like a county work farm, where they could learn pride in themselves learn useful skills to support themselves and have a normal life.

These are my solutions but are these going to happen? No, because the ACLU and the liberals won't allow. So parts of our towns and cities look like stinking armpits with people living on piles of garbage like rats. Hats off to the Roseburg Police Dept. What would we do without the police? And finally, here is what the city of Coos Bay has done about the homeless problem> https://theworldlink.com/news/local/coos-bay-passes-camping-ordinance-to-regulate-homeless/article_58d09ec2-f934-11eb-98be-db7f7f3105da.html

rcremer

It is saddening that churches in Roseburg are not opening warming centers for the homeless. Two churches with which I am familiar, St. Joseph's Catholic Church and the Mormon Church in Hucrest, each have large gymnasiums which could easily serve as warming centers.They sit unused every night. Why not put them to good use? Where is the Christian spirit amongst you? Please open your doors to those in need.

MI Go Beav

Sure, letting drug addicted, mentally-ill people into your building? What could go wrong? Why don't you open your home to these people?

JohnPayne

It's a shame that someone in the community called the police on people trying to stay warm during cold weather. It is becoming more and more apparent to me that the citizens of Roseburg are not kind people.

NJ

Not to frighten you John, but we could very well be related way up the family tree. My great grandparents Payne homesteaded in the late 1800's outside of Pendleton. [unsure]

NJ

"Roseburg City Council approved changes in regulations that were intended to make it easier for church groups to open their doors for a warming center. However, none did." This explains why younger people are moving away from religion. Younger people could be involved in volunteering in the operation of temporary housing at church facilities, any teen can stir a soup. You can't tell me that area houses of worship intended them to be operated as country clubs for the elite. That would make them monsters who have turned away from the teachings of Jesus. What's gone wrong with a church who no longer believes in benevolence, who turns their back on the least among us?

Aviva Health

NJ, what are you doing to help? If you volunteer, regularly support a charity, or otherwise give of yourself to help others, I commend you. But still, I'm confused by your above statement. Why are you so quick to broadly cast judgment on religion, specifically Christianity? Sure, there are those so-called believers whose actions don't align with their purported faith. And yet there are others who willfully, publicly, and shamelessly admonish people, making gross generalizations absent a real attempt to identify motive or intent. Those ignorant and misinformed statements, like yours, do as much to influence young people as the "monsters" in the church. So, I ask you, what's gone wrong with people like yourself who no longer believe in benevolence and instead use forums like this to spur hate and division? You turn your back on not just the least among us, but society as a whole. And in case you're wondering, I've made a career of serving the least among us. If you've done the same, again I thank you. But maybe step off the pulpit and get your hands dirty making a real difference. In case you missed my point, posting BS here is not making a difference.

NJ

You feel personally attacked and in return attack back, mistakenly assuming who I am without any real knowledge. If it makes you feel better to take an opportunity to brag about your benevolence while attacking mine, you mistake my opinion of Churches as a personal attack. Now that you've vented in a not so very benevolent way, I have some questions for you. As reported, why do you think no church in the community to date has opened up a warming center or any area of their property to help or house the least among us? Why would someone who is benevolent accuse another for their opinion when it's based on what's reported? I don't believe you're interpreting the article or my comments correctly and perhaps need to re-read. What the law won't allow (a city park warming center), why aren't churches opening their doors? Why are young people moving away from religion? A denomination can't just build a church and expect their work is done, it's rather just begun in fostering benevolence among their congregation young and old. Are your comments against me truly fostering a benevolence you appear to deeply cherish? Don't see my comments as a personal attack but rather as an opportunity to promote your benevolence in a more productive way. You might also want to read this for insight: https://www.npr.org/2013/01/15/169342349/more-young-people-are-moving-away-from-religion-but-why

mword

Dear Ghost of David Hasselhoff (I had to look it up.)

Let me introduce myself. I've worked with the least among us since I was about 16 years old. At that age I couldn't do much except stir a pot of soup or drive people to the doctor, but as I got older I gained a lot of experience. When someone's about to go off the rails they often wave red flags at everyone around them. Maybe I'm just getting a flash of red swim trunks, Hoff, but i see red flags waving. This is a hard time of year for many people.

Maybe think about getting a meeting in or getting medication adjusted. Maybe just have a good meal and talk to a friend. There is benevolence and kindness out there, but we all have to both reach for it and give it to others. I hope this week before Christmas goes well for you. Take Care.

Sighed: Ghost of Christmas Past

BetsyC

Although very few organized churches in our community directly help people who are homeless, the majority of people who make sure folks have some basic survival needs met (like food) are faith based. Either churches, or outreach ministries.

In Roseburg, places like the St Joe's kitchen (Catholic Church related) and Dream Center provide help. There are outreach ministries like Under the Bridge, Wheels of Hope, Servants of Christ and Laundry Love. Plus folks who just do it because they believe they are doing God's work out there caring. I don't know what would really be happening if these folks were not there for people living rough. Although I am not one of these folks (Housing First Umpqua is not a faith based organization), these are the folks in this community who are really taking care of the basic needs of the people who most of us tend to ignore or complain about.

NJ

What a shame it is that the ongoing work of these faith-based groups is never presented in print the way you're able to summarize it here. Thank you Betsy. I'd suggest that anyone who reads this take an opportunity to support these groups' efforts by volunteering or offering monetary support.

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