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CHI Mercy Medical Center in 2019.

A Douglas County patient died yesterday at CHI Mercy Medical Center while waiting for a bed in the ICU to open up.

The hospital, through the Douglas County COVID-19 Recovery Team, shared the story on Thursday afternoon.

“This moment, we pause.

A COVID positive patient was in our Emergency Department, within our four walls, waiting for an open Intensive Care Unit bed to receive life-saving care.

It had been several hours because other COVID positive patients had filled those beds.

Even after expanding ICU care onto other floors, there weren’t any beds available for this patient.

We didn’t have enough.

This patient died in the Emergency Department waiting for an Intensive Care Unit bed.

This is very real to our physicians, clinicians, housekeepers, and each member of our Mercy family.

Today, we paused, we reset and we tried to move forward mentally and physically for our own well-being and serving our most vulnerable, sick patients within our four walls.

We need your help, grace and kindness.”

In its release, the county recovery team said the recent surge in COVID-19 cases have overwhelmed hospitals all across the state.

“This pandemic has impacted everyone’s life, some more than others, and some in ways you will never know. The men and women who are on the front lines at our local hospitals and medical care facilities are dealing with the latter, every day, every hour and every minute,” the county said.

On Wednesday, the Douglas County Board of Commissioners and the Douglas Public Health Network recommended residents work from home if possible and avoid large gatherings.

Ian Campbell can be reached at ian@nrtoday.com or 541-957-4209. Or follow him on Twitter

@MrCampbell17.

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Mike

Quote by Douglas County Public Health Network Director Dr. Dannenhoffer:

“Our concern is that more people are entering the hospital than leaving the hospital,” Dr. Bob Dannenhoffer, Douglas County public health officer said. “And unfortunately, one of the most common ways people are leaving the hospital is to die. We had four deaths today. Which freed up four beds but that is not the way we want to make space in the hospital.”

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/08/19/roseburg-oregon-covid-19-deaths-patient-dies-mercy-health-hospital-icu-beds/

Mike

I have a question regarding Ivermectin. Granted, Ivermectin may be an effective Covid treatment and considering Mercy Medical Center Director Dr. John Powell recommends Ivermecin and discourages vaccination, does this mean Mercy Medical Center is using Ivermecin in its treatment since Mercy Director Dr. Powell is recommending it?

instaTech

I believe Dr. Powell is CEO of Evergreen Family Medicine, not Mercy Medical Center. I have not heard any reports of Mercy Medical Center prescribing Ivermectin for treatment. I only have one personal story of someone at Mercy telling a patient not to take it. Again, this is only a single personal testimony, so take that as you will.

Mike

"Members of CHI Mercy Health’s board of directors include Dave Leonard, Amy Palm, Laura Lusa, Tom Davidson, Neal Brown, Sr. Gabrielle Jones, RSM; John Powell, M.D., Brad Seely, M.D., Lane Jorgensen, DO, Ketul Patel, Toby Luther, and Kelly Morgan."

https://kpic.com/news/local/dr-susan-williams-joins-chi-mercy-health-board

Mike

Mississippi officials warn against using ivermectin for COVID-19 amid spike in poisonings.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mississippi-officials-warn-against-using-ivermectin-for-covid-19-amid-spike-in-poisonings/ar-AANyxth?li=BBnb7Kz

NJ

There is no support for ivermectin. The study was flawed: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns -- https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/26/bmjebm-2021-111678

Mike

'Stop it': FDA warns people not to take Ivermecin veterinary drug to treat Covid-19

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/stop-it-fda-warns-people-not-to-take-veterinary-drugs-to-treat-covid-19/ar-AANzYfT

Scott Mendelson

It is very unwise to believe that you can not be vaccinated, get sick with covid, and then be saved by ivermectin.

The most recent review of ivermectin from June 28, 2021, is not encouraging. https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab591/6310839?ltclid=

Ivermectin for the Treatment of Coronavirus Disease 2019: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials

Methods

Published and preprint randomized controlled trials (RCTs) assessing the effects of IVM on adult patients with COVID-19 were searched until 22 March 2021 in 5 engines. Primary outcomes were all-cause mortality rate, length of hospital stay (LOS), and adverse events (AEs). Secondary outcomes included viral clearance and severe AEs (SAEs). The risk of bias (RoB) was evaluated using the Cochrane Risk of Bias 2.0 tool. Inverse variance random effect meta-analyses were performed, with quality of evidence (QoE) evaluated using GRADE methods.

Results

Ten RCTs (n = 1173) were included. The controls were the standard of care in 5 RCTs and placebo in 5. COVID-19 disease severity was mild in 8 RCTs, moderate in 1, and mild and moderate in 1. IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality rates compared with controls (relative risk [RR], 0.37 [95% confidence interval, .12–1.13]; very low QoE) or LOS compared with controls (mean difference, 0.72 days [95% confidence interval, −.86 to 2.29 days]; very low QoE). AEs, SAEs, and viral clearance were similar between IVM and control groups (low QoE for all outcomes). Subgroups by severity of COVID-19 or RoB were mostly consistent with main analyses; all-cause mortality rates in 3 RCTs at high RoB were reduced with IVM.

Conclusions

Compared with the standard of care or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, LOS, or viral clearance in RCTs in patients with mostly mild COVID-19. IVM did not have an effect on AEs or SAEs and is not a viable option to treat patients with COVID-19.

yepyouguessedit

Maybe we should use data that shows even Vaccinated patients are dying with Delta more than before.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/08/07/covid-19-oregon-cases-delta-variant-vaccine-health-authority/

mworden

The sub-head on your linked article from the Oregon Health Authority:

"One in five confirmed COVID-19 cases [in July] were in the vaccinated. But very few died."

According to the county public health officer, as of last Tuesday, only one of the deceased in Douglas County had been vaccinated. All the rest were NOT vaccinated.

Mike

I believe today's report indicates 2 of the last 5 deaths were fully vaccinated.

Mike

Douglas County Commissioners Covid Recovery Team reported 2 of the 5 people who died over the past two days were fully vaccinated.

mworden

All the more reason to reinstate all the mandates that were in place before control was handed over to the counties in June.

Kenzie2021

Do not go to MMC. They are incompetent! My family was very ill and Peacehealth saved his life. We refuse to go to mercy. ER should of been able to deliver the same care or better than ICU. MmC is being sued by multiple people for negligence. They are the worst RR floor ever. Don’t send your family there!😭😢

mworden

I'm putting this comment about Ivermectin at the top so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle.

InstaTech said: "I won't say that Ivermectin is the cure to everything, it is just troubling that information regarding the potential benefits is being blocked, when it could be helping to save lives."

My response: And, yet, here we are -- ordinary citizens -- discussing it in the comment section of the local paper, exchanging links to research papers, discussing those easily accessible papers, and, just by chance, two of our commentarians happen to be retired physicians.

My relative, who has a high school education and not much interest in science, can detail reports on ivermectin's use as evidence that he doesn't need to get vaccinated. He's getting that off the news media and internet. That's also where he gets his anti-vax info and advice to use ivermectin, vitamin D, zinc and a good multi. Guess who bought him the vitamins. I would much prefer he got vaccinated.

Dr. Powell, the medical director of Evergreen Clinic and a member of the board of directors of Mercy Hospital, has written blog posts advocating ivermectin. They are easily accessible on the Evergreen website.

Dr. Dannenhoffer, our public health officer, answers questions about ivermectin every week on his Tuesday 6 p.m. facebook live session. He details the latest research. That's how I knew the Elgazzar study was withdrawn. i then went searching for details, which were easy to find.

The national news media regularly talks about ivermectin on newscasts. Podcasters discuss it. Local doctors discuss it. Scomo, one of our local posters, advocates it, along with zinc and vitamin D.

I don't think there's any evidence that information regarding ivermectin's potential benefits is being blocked. What we don't have is agreement.

If the evidence shows ivermectin works, I'm willing to change my mind. Right now, I don't see enough evidence to get me there. But I'm not against ivermectin.

I'm for anything that will save lives. Ivermectin is an old-time, inexpensive drug with few dangerous side effects. So far, people can't take it at the high dose that's been shown to kill covid in vitro. Let's hope those doctors and scientists figure it out soon.

instaTech

@mworden

I'm glad to hear it is in the discussion more. Apparently the media I've been exposed to have not gone down that road.

"I'm for anything that will save lives." I couldn't agree with you more.

Scomo

I know if at least one young person who was hospitalized with serious covid and the doctors administer ivermectin immediately upon admission and the patient recovered in a few days.

Wretched722

We need another hospital!!! Mercy just is not up to the task of handling the population in this area any longer. Virus aside, there needs to be another facility.

Plugtuglug

Where have you been all along Douglas Count Commissioners? Now you decide to not push the large gatherings you have pushed so actively in the past. All of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You will not get my vote this time!

“ On Wednesday, the Douglas County Board of Commissioners and the Douglas Public Health Network recommended residents work from home if possible and avoid large gatherings.”

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FedUp

If they are the highest in Douglas County then why does the link you posted say the rate is the highest in Grant and Jefferson counties? It also says that in the previous six weeks that pediatric case rates were the highest in Curry, Sherman and Wheeler counties. Did you even look at the website?

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FedUp

Your post is wrong per your own link.

david wright

Meanwhile, Sutherlin is hosting back to back super spreaders; Blackberry Festival this week-end and a music concert the next. "Ain't no need to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die" Props to Country Joe McDonald

NJ

This didn't need to happen. Those of us more than aware of the danger of Covid Variant Delta knew there would be a surge of sickness, and now a needless death. At the very least, the hospital should request emergency supply of Monoclonal Antibodies, and set up the mass testing sights again. Those sickened, if tested, once given the Antibodies means the difference between not having to go to the hospital, and dying waiting to get to an ER room. Forget asking for freezer trucks and pre-empt the onslaught of more deadly sickness. Set up stations for those who know they have the virus, to get the Antibodies.

Know this for sure. The good people of this county are watching. There's a way to stop the death with mandated testing, mandated isolation and quarantine of all who have felt it beneath them to keep themselves and others alive. And Monoclonal Antibody therapy will go a long way to curb Mercy's crisis. Perhaps now, Mercy Administration will mandate all employees be vaccinated and the Commissioners will experience enough energy to get ahead of what will come.

Ian, I sincerely hope that what you've published here isn't the entire "story" told or submitted to you from Mercy Hospital. It's very obvious that while Mercy wants mercy from us all, they didn't bother to even mention any regard toward the family of the person who died waiting to be helped. What we don't need is our monopolized hospital to ignore that for every death a family is mourning. Mercy may not want us to know, but the families know, and will see what appears to be complete disregard for the loss of their loved one. https://combatcovid.hhs.gov/i-have-covid-19-now/monoclonal-antibodies-high-risk-covid-19-positive-patients

FedUp

Is this post from last spring,? Because this sounds like the same rhetoric that never happened then!

mjnutts

Now it happens again. Real is not fact any more. Here what I say & never the truth. The woke have the podium. That will not last. Everyone underestimate’s the strengths of the USA. We have come to the challenge many times & it will happen again. Spirit along with red white & blue will win the day. God Bless The True Hearts ♥️

melrosereader

I agree with your ideas, but here's the problem. Health care workers are already maxed out. Who will administer all of these additional tests, and so forth?

NJ

The Monoclonal Antibodies therapy isn't just a 2 plus hour infusion treatment any more. The antibodies can be given as a shot. It doesn't require a health care worker to give that subcutaneous shot; I was giving shots at 16 when I worked a summer job for a local doctor. I was handed an orange and syringe and told to practice at home; 2 days later I was giving shots. Retired doctors and nurses and college nursing program students can be recruited. Anyone who takes a quick tutorial on how to maintain a sterile field and allowed to practice a few times can do it.

We have to change our scope on how help can be given and take more of a war-time field hospital perspective. People really don't want to watch others die and could step up when they gain the perspective that if we are trying, we can put down Covid Delta and keep people from needing the hospital. We seem very busy being against one another and have to get behind a common cause of not being against each other, just against a deadly virus.

"This is the first time an injectable coronavirus antibody treatment has been approved for use as a prevention of Covid after someone has been exposed to the virus." source: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-authorizes-covid-antibody-treatment-preventive-after-exposure-n1275737

mworden

NJ, I really agree that it's time we stopped being against each other and started working together with the common goal of putting down Covid Delta. I, too, see it as akin to a wartime effort for the common good and to save lives.

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melrosereader

Mike, may I suggest that you re-post this comment under Linda Snyder's LTE?

Mike

238 new Covid cases and 3 MORE DEATHS were reported in Douglas County today by the Oregon Health Authority (below link). There now have been 21 Covid deaths in Douglas County in the last 21 days. 24 Douglas County residents have died of Covid since our Douglas County Commissioners were granted full Covid restriction control on June 30 as they demanded from the Governor because they claimed to know better how to control Covid in Douglas County.

Douglas County had a RECORD 1,155 new Covid cases over the past week while the positive test rate remains over 30%.

1,938 new coronavirus cases have been reported in Douglas County over the past two weeks which calculates to a 14-day case rate of 1,726.5 today, which is higher than the maximum case rate of 200 previously required for in-dining restaurants, bars, theaters and health clubs to remain open. These are AGAIN all new records.

The six counties surrounding Douglas County reported a RECORD 1,162 new coronavirus cases and a RECORD 14 deaths today and reported a RECORD 5,800 new cases and 40 deaths over the past week.

The Oregon Health Authority reported a RECORD 2,969 new coronavirus cases and 19 deaths today in Oregon. Oregon’s 7-day positive test rate is 9.6% today.

There are 91 ICU beds and 370 non-ICU beds available throughout Oregon today according to the Oregon Health Authority. There is currently a RECORD 231 in ICU and a RECORD 128 Oregonians on ventilators.

The Oregon Health Authority also tracks hospital statistics for seven different regions in Oregon. Region 3 consists of Douglas, Coos, Curry and Lane Counties. The OHA reported there are 13 ICU beds and 80 non-ICU beds available in Region 3 today. A RECORD 170 coronavirus cases are hospitalized in Region 3 today, breaking yesterday’s record by 4. 34 Oregonians are in ICU and 21 Oregonians are on ventilators in Region 3. 577 new coronavirus cases were reported in Region 3 today.

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/oregon.health.authority.covid.19/viz/OregonCOVID-19Update/DailyDataUpdate

Mike

Douglas County's 238 new Covid cases is the 4th most in Oregon followed by Clackamas (269), Jackson (345) and Lane (319) counties. Douglas County with a little over 2% of the population had almost 10% of Oregon's cases.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/ORDHS/bulletins/2ed8a25

S

Maybe the Clowns aka Commissioners at the courthouse could start enforcing the mask mandate and institute other mandates like requiring County employees to get vaccinated instead of getting dead. We knew this was coming and we know its going to get worse. We can take action now to minimize the impacts on our system ... or not. The economic positives are not possible until we get COVID 19 under control. Businesses are closing because employees are sick and cannot come to work, shelves are emptying because goods are not being transported because workers are sick. It's not that complicated . . . vaccines and masks and staying put.

Mike

This death is Douglas County's 106th and represents 19 Covid deaths in the last 21 days that we know of.

Mike

Correction: This death was once of 3 reported in Douglas County today by the Oregon Health Authority. That makes it 21 deaths in the last 21 days. Must be a hoax.

mjnutts

No kidding. How many flu or pneumonia cases were reported as cause of death? At this rate every death is charted as the almighty COVID. Lord forbid someone has a heart attack! It is reported as COVID. Just a bug in your ear! Something to ponder!

mjnutts

Check the age of the Douglas County population. My word if everyone over the age of 55 even got a sniffle COVID is the cause. Americans get it. Give us a little credit.

instaTech

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

melrosereader

How much will it cost compared to a vaccine?

CitizenJoe

Ivermectin for my cattle is dirt cheap. Once/if it's routinely used for Covid in people, I expect serious gouging, at least here in the U.S.. When I was in medical school, trachoma was the number one cause of blindness worldwide, and it cost about a dime to prevent it with ten days' worth of doxycycline (in Africa and most of the developing world). Today, out-of-patent (patented 1957) doxycycline is about $2 a pill and a couple years ago was around $10 a pill as I recall--total gouging. (In the U.S.)

The ivermectin studies look promising. That meta-analysis cited is flawed, but a Bayesian analysis, subtracting individual studies, indicate the findings may be robust.

"A recent meta-analysis of the trials evaluating ivermectin (Bryant et al., 2021) was widely welcomed by those who have argued that this antiparasitic drug is a cheap and effective treatment for Covid-19 infections. The study concluded:

“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

These conclusions stand in stark contrast to those of a later meta-analysis (Roman et al., 2021) which looked at a subset of the trials. They concluded:

“In comparison to SOC or placebo, IVM did not reduce all-cause mortality, length of stay or viral clearance in RCTs in COVID-19 patients with mostly mild disease. IVM did not have effect on AEs or SAEs. IVM is not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients.”

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Norman-Fenton/publication/353794395_Bayesian_Meta_Analysis_of_Ivermectin_Effectiveness_in_Treating_Covid-19_with_sensitivity_analysis_to_account_for_possibly_flawed_studies/links/61123ce6169a1a0103ee1689/Bayesian-Meta-Analysis-of-Ivermectin-Effectiveness-in-Treating-Covid-19-with-sensitivity-analysis-to-account-for-possibly-flawed-studies.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452318621000350

An important point is that vaccination will do more to prevent the spread of infection, since people with the disease shed before symptoms.

But, hey! It's worth more study, and likely will be added to our armamentarium.

Scott Mendelson

I agree with you, Joe and Insta tech. The data is promising. I note that studies I have seen are rather disparate. One study showed no benefits in seriously ill patients in the ICU. Another showed a 75 % reduction in mortality in moderately ill patients, which is a nice effect but leaves significant mortality beyond what you would expect from vaccinated individuals. Does it prevent so-called "long-haul covid"? No one knows. There also some bias issues raised by reviewers in meta-analyses. Since having the virus replicating in your cells exposes you to all of the offending proteins, including the spike protein generated by the vaccine mRNA, you are not spared anything with ivermectin over the vaccine. The data still show that vaccination is the best approach.

mworden

The issue of Ivermectin is personal to me. I have a much loved anti-vax relative who has been convinced by reading Dr. Powell's blog that Ivermectin is all that's needed.

Unfortunately, the so-called best study on the efficacy of Ivermectin as a treatment for covid has been withdrawn due to ethical issues. It was faked. Made up. The language plagiarized from a mix of other studies. Why? Why would somebody do this? I don't know. But it happened within the last 5 weeks.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

My relative is still unvaccinated, still counting on Ivermectin if he gets sick.

CitizenJoe

mworden: thanks! I had missed that Guardian article. The sloppy plagiarism was amusing.

mworden

This one fabricated, plagiarized, faked study is probably solely responsible for the positive reviews that suggest ivermectin works. It's important that people know this. If they take ivermectin, it's unlikely to hurt them. But if they avoid vaccination because they think they have ivermectin as a treatment, they may very well die. From the article:

“Because the Elgazzar study is so large, and so massively positive – showing a 90% reduction in mortality – it hugely skews the evidence in favour of ivermectin,” Meyerowitz-Katz said.

“If you remove this one study from the scientific literature, suddenly there are very few positive randomised control trials of ivermectin for Covid-19. Indeed, if you get rid of just this research, most meta-analyses that have found positive results would have their conclusions entirely reversed.”

instaTech

@mworden

The Elgazzar study done in Egypt is unfortunate, but there are several other studies showing Ivermectin to be a viable treatment option. Here are a few:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/08000/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.7.aspx

You said, " If they take ivermectin, it's unlikely to hurt them." I agree with you there.

The vaccines, however, have already killed thousands of people, and are causing life altering medical conditions to thousands more. This is troubling to say the least.

People should have all of the data in front of them and be given the choice of treatment. When information is not presented, or even actively blocked, we've moved out of the bounds of science. If we truly want lives to be saved, we need to be seeking, researching, and providing all avenues of treatment.

Scott Mendelson

Insta tech. I do not believe your statement about "thousdands of deaths" from the vaccine is at all true. The data show the vaccines to be very safe. Between December 2020 and August 20231, roughly 360 million doses of mRNA vaccine have been administered. Out of all of those doses, there have been 6,789 reports of death submitted to VAERS. if the VAERS data is what you are basing your conclusion on, that conclusion is wrong. People report to the VAERS whenever any untoward event happens after a vaccination. However, there is absolutely no verification that the deaths were in any way related to the vaccine. In fact, out of 100,000,000 people (some of whom were already ill and being given vaccine because they were at high risk of dying form the virus) you expect far more than that number to die from any number of other reasons. The death rate in the US from all causes is about 900 per 100,000 per year. Very few deaths have been attributed to the vaccines after study of the cases. If you have evidence other than VAERS reports showing thousands of deaths I would like to see it.

mworden

InstaTech, thank you for the links. The link was broken on the second article but I found it by googling American Therapeutics ivermectin.

The first article is about ivermectin working against the covid virus in vitro. In plain language that means in a test tube. The dose that killed the virus in the test tube is much higher than can be reached by giving even 10x the recommended dose. More studies are needed, but at this point humans can't take the dose that worked in the test tubes.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32378737/

The second link is to an article about a meta-analysis. It includes the falsified Elgazzar study from Egypt. As the Guardian article stated, when the Elgazzar study is removed from meta-analyses the results do not show a positive effect from ivermection.

If you go to Table 1, Summary of study characteristics, you'll see the Elgazzar study 7th down under "country."

For readers who don't know, a meta-analysis is a statistical method of examining data from a number of different studies on the same subject. The results of a meta-analysis are only as good as the data in the many studies it examines. The Elgazzar study was the largest study examined and it was false from beginning to end. That made the positive results of the meta-analysis invalid. Minus the fake Elgazzar, meta-analyses to date do not show a positive result for ivermectin.

InstaTech if you have other articles I would be glad to read them. As I said, I have an unvaccinated relative who is banking on ivermectin as a cure for covid. So far I am not seeing anything to smile about.

instaTech

@mworden

Yes, the second link did include the Egypt study in their findings. It was not, however, the largest study in the group. The largest study out of the 22 they examined was the Lopez-Medina 2021 double-blind study out of Columbia. Of all of the studies, the Egypt study only accounted for 5.87% of the data. Taking only the remaining 21 studies data, their conclusion would remain the same.

Here is another study for consideration:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

I won't say that Ivermectin is the cure to everything, it is just troubling that information regarding the potential benefits is being blocked, when it could be helping to save lives.

instaTech

@Scott

VAERS is all we have access to. There is a lawsuit filed to gain access to the official numbers, but until (if) that goes through, we only have VAERS.

VAERS is voluntary. In years past, it was general knowledge that less than 1% of vaccine injuries end up in the VAERS database. I find it hard to believe that all of a sudden, every single case of someone who received the COVID vaccine, then died was reported to VAERS. So the numbers we are seeing are most likely lower than the actual number of injuries and deaths from the COVID vaccine.

There is a huge spike in VAERS death/injury reporting after the COVID vaccines. It eclipses all vaccines, in all prior years. There is also a huge spike in Europe's version of VAERS, and in Israel as well. To turn a blind eye to this would be willful ignorance.

So, again, I do agree with you. Let's see the official numbers, then we can all make a more informed decision. But until they release them, I'll go with what we have access to.

Mike

Was the person person who died waiting for an ICU bed vaccinated?

CitizenJoe

Likely. It's a certainty that some of those already in the ICU could have avoided filling the bedspace by getting vaccinated months ago.

But medical ethics rightly prevent doctors from treating or withholding treatment based on "fault"--as satisfying that might be on a human, judgmental level. It's a feeling I share, at first blush, but would have to resist, if I were put into the doctors' dilemma.

Mike

Possibly. I would have thought it unlikely.

CitizenJoe

Mike, you are correct. You asked, "Was the person person who died waiting for an ICU bed vaccinated?" and read it as "unvaccinated." I was wrong. In my defense, English is not my first language (that was Japanese), and my ancestry is Pennsylvania "Dutch", who mostly backwards speak.

Mike

Still have my own pair of wooden shoes carved for me when I was a child.

mworden

We Need a Field Hospital and Personnel to Staff It in Southern Oregon Now

My condolences to the family and to the Mercy staff who did what they could, but didn't have an ICU bed for this patient. This is a tragedy. It's scary. It could happen again.

We need a field hospital in Southern Oregon. Jackson County has already made the request to the state. Our Douglas County Commissioners Tim Freeman, Chris Boice and Tom Kress need to issue a statement in support of that request. As do Senator Dallas Heard, Rep. Christine Goodwin and the mayors of our cities and towns.

In Spring of 2020, Gov. Brown authorized the Oregon National Guard to set up an overflow covid field hospital at the Oregon State Fairgrounds. They know how to do it. They have the knowledge, the skill and the resources.

Mercy staff can do only so much. If there are no ICU beds and not enough staff to support those beds, then more people are going to die before receiving treatment.

Please, Commissioners, Dr. Gray from Mercy, the people who have the authority to make this request to Kate Brown, do not delay another day. We are counting on you.

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