In response to Terry Noonkester's letter of Jan. 18, "How is my ballot secure in the mail?" The letter's claims are totally baseless. Oregon has a stellar record for election integrity. Further, there is no known instances of counterfeit ballots

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NJ

We could all use some Sunday reading. Here's a good article that explains why people believe what they believe and when "...consensus presents a picture that threatens someone’s ideological worldview. In practice, it turns out that one’s political, religious or ethnic identity quite effectively predicts one’s willingness to accept expertise on any given politicized issue.": https://theconversation.com/humans-are-hardwired-to-dismiss-facts-that-dont-fit-their-worldview-127168

And another conversation of what social media has in store for us all. "Most misinformation is not the result of innocent misunderstanding. It’s the product of specific campaigns to advance a political or ideological agenda.": https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-will-2022-bring-in-the-way-of-misinformation-on-social-media-3-experts-weigh-in/

And a quiz - "Your Friend Might Be Politically Brainwashed If... : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-act-be/202010/your-friend-might-be-politically-brainwashed-if

mword

The posters below don't think voting is a right. The Constitution has a lot to say about voting. There are three Amendments that start with the words, "The right of citizens of the United States to vote..." Sounds like voting is intended to be a right.

15th Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

19th Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

24th Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll tax or other tax. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Publicus Tacitus

Voting is a DUTY, not a basic right. As a duty it is entirely ridiculous create a system with potential for fraud to accommodate those simply too lazy or unwilling to be bothered by the inconvenience to fulfill their civic duty. Also, the argument against voter ID as racist is beyond comprehension. One must have valid License to drive, and ID to purchase alcohol, but not to vote? This is the generation of the entitled, the age of convenience, and the neglect of public and personal responsibilities.

May GOD have mercy on us all.

dljones54

Agree with you 100%, Publicus. I don't understand why people are so lazy that they can't drive to a polling place, show their ID, sign their name on the line and vote. There are absentee ballots for special circumstances so there are no excuses. If things don't change, we are on course to lose every freedom we have.

Huge bbfan

Mail in voting is the best path to voter fraud ever created, which is why it was created.

dljones54

Huge bbfan, you are so right!

dejadoodoo

Your brain is supposed to be used for cognitive thinking, which is why it was created. As much as I appreciate that everyone is entitled to opinions (within the current rule book, which is whole nother discussion), you offer zero discussion, so I call that comment your brain simply passing gas. Unfortunately, there appears nothing remaining for you except idiocy and sadness.

CitizenJoe

Robert Cormier: thanks!

Oregon's system is really fine. It's possible to actually enjoy voting, over coffee and some time to research issues and candidates--and then to rely on the vote being counted: one may check on-line with the Secretary of State's website to see that the ballot arrived; and the county clerk's office actually contacts voters if there is a problem, like forgetting to sign the envelope, or other issues, all while protecting the secrecy of the ballot itself. And, oh: providing a hard copy and a paper trail.

It's a great system for encouraging voting, increasing participation in democracy, and empowering people.

Who could be against all that?

Oh.

Well, sure.

garyd

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dljones54

Voter fraud has been very well hidden for years by corrupt politicians but you wouldn't know because you never watch real news. When dead people have been voting by mail for years that seems a little like fraud. Watch some real news....

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