I took the "Biden Challenge." Here's what I found:

1. US went from energy independence to begging OPEC for oil - pipeline shut down killing hundreds of jobs, leaving paid materials to rust.

2. Stopped the southern wall being built with contracts already paid for and again, paid for steel to rust. Thousands of illegal immigrants flooding the southern border, being bussed into states at night to hide where they're dropped off. But not in politicians' neighborhoods.

3. Afghanistan pull out so poorly organized troops were pulled out before US citizens and Afghan supporters, 13 dead service people due to lack of ground support, over 82 BILLION dollars worth of new military equipment and uniforms left, in effect arming our enemies. Wearing US uniforms they could attach before we'd realize it was the enemy.

4. Passed the so-called infrastructure bill, which if you look at what's in it, has little to do with actual infrastructure like roads and bridges.

5. Spent trillions of dollars on various feel good bills. Yes, they sent people money, but first the US is already heavily in debt so where is the money coming from? It comes from us taxpayers so look for higher taxes as they indulge in this spending spree. It won't just be the rich. All their money would not be enough. It will come from all of us and leave massive debt for our children.

6. Termed parents "terrorists" for caring about what their children are being taught in school.

7. Incarcerated Jan. 6 protesters who were unarmed, mainly trespassers, for months in prison while ignoring BLM and antifa rioters who attached people, looted and burned cities. Where is the justice in this?

No, I'm not optimistic about the Biden years. I just hope the US survives them.

Midge Frost

Roseburg

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Daniel

Dljones, assigning as task force is not calling parents anything. However, anyone who threatens a elected official or their family, business or home - no matter what their political strip - is a domestic terrorist and should be put under suspicion as such. Criticism, actively seeking their removal from official, those are fair game. Physical threats are not and should be flat out a violation of law.

Mike

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CitizenJoe

What Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote:

“Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.”

mworden

[thumbup] For Citizenjoe.

Below are links to some videos on Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity and the Laws of Stupidity that I've enjoyed recently. I sought these out the past few weeks in the hope that I could gain more patience and compassion. Mine had worn a bit thin due to the pandemic and politics.

Bonhoeffer said that stupidity is, in essence, not an intellectual problem, but a moral one. A person of normal or superior intelligence can allow themselves to become remarkably stupid in their thinking and behavior. I try to feel compassion because the stupid person is misused in their very being by the slogans and lies they expose themselves to when they want to feel they are part of something.

They can be remarkably stubborn in their stupidity. That's what I grew impatient with. I'm trying to feel more compassion for people who consistently make choices that provide them with no benefit but that can harm others. It's a lose/lose life strategy.

One of the things that I've witnessed is that people will gladly choose a lose/lose life strategy if it gives them a couple minutes of ego gratification. To them, that ego boost is a win, no matter what else happens. Really stupid behavior.

Bonhoeffer was talking about WWII Germany. Much of what he says applies to serious situations we face today. You know, the pandemic and politics and 750,000 Americans dead.

Bonhoeffer was executed in 1945 for opposing Hitler, just two weeks before soldiers from the US liberated the concentration camp where he was being held. His writing lived on after him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww47bR86wSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O9FFrLpinQ

CitizenJoe

mworden: thank you. He was a hero at so many levels.

And, regarding that lose/lose strategy, I'm reminded of the book, Dying of Whiteness.

Regarding persistence of ignorance, I learned today that me anti-vaxxers are promoting baths in Borax to "rid the body" of the effects of the vaccine.

mworden

Dying of Whiteness is a great book for our times. Unfortunately, the title puts many people off.

For readers who might not pick up the book because you don't like the title: It's not about racism at an individual level. It's written by a sociologist who examines how and why racial fears and resentments have been used unscrupulously by GOP politicians to get White people to support policies that harm them, hurt their health and wealth, and that have led to a lower life expectancy among White males in rural areas. We live in a rural area. We're largely White and Republican. This might be important subject matter for us to know about.

Here's an interview with the author. It's worth reading.

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/19/18236247/dying-of-whiteness-trump-politics-jonathan-metzl

dejadoodoo

People are stupid by nature. Lately, more and more have fallen into the collective simply because "resistance is futile." QANON is growing stronger -- people dumber...oh, my.

Mike

Ms. Frost has written no less than 10 letters to the editor espousing her support for Hydroelectric Dams, spotted owls, former President Trump and animal rights while also opining her distaste for Democrats, government spending, climate change, the oil industry and anything that impacts animals.

Noteworthy is a co-authored News-Review opinion piece defending former Oregon Senator Jeff Kruse who resigned in shame because of sexual harassment charges by fellow female Senators.

https://www.nrtoday.com/opinion/public-forum/article_756a2c4c-d47c-58cf-9fda-ac33dbd70dd4.html

Another opinion piece by Midge Frost advocates for holding democratic representatives accountable, referring specifically to Hillary Clinton.

https://www.nrtoday.com/opinion/all-representatives-need-to-be-held-accountable/article_a7005f8b-5c4a-586d-9c31-b41e40b87d6e.html

Ms. Frost’s anti-climate change slant is obvious from her opinion piece in 2014.

https://www.nrtoday.com/opinion/an-open-mind-should-include-common-sense/article_1a149634-92e9-507b-9965-71886dd42b19.html

Ms. Frost’s anti-government spending slant is obvious form her opinion piece in 2013.

https://www.nrtoday.com/opinion/letter-curb-government-spending-addiction-now/article_a9945c20-5aff-5b75-a24e-d60ceb9daa44.html

OregonTrail88

Again, I ask you, Midge...what are you talking about when you say there is very little infrastructure in the Infrastructure bill?

This is what is in the bill:

-$110 billion toward roads, bridges and other much-needed infrastructure fix-ups across the country; $40 billion is new funding for bridge repair, replacement and rehabilitation and $17.5 billion is for major projects;

-$73 billion for the country's electric grid and power structures;

-$66 billion for rail services;

-$65 billion for broadband;

-$55 billion for water infrastructure;

-$21 billion in environmental remediation;

-$47 billion for flooding and coastal resiliency as well as "climate resiliency," including protections against fires, etc.;

-$39 billion to modernize transit, which is the largest federal investment in public transit in history, according to the White House;

-$25 billion for airports;

-$17 billion in port infrastructure;

-$11 billion in transportation safety programs;

-$7.5 billion for electric vehicles and EV charging; $2.5 billion in zero-emission buses, $2.5 billion in low-emission buses, and $2.5 billion for ferries;

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olesage

Brandon beat trump by 7 million votes. Brandon got infrastructure week done that self proclaimed master builder couldn’t. Brandon definitely going… great

OregonTrail88

Midge's quote..

" Incarcerated Jan. 6 protesters who were unarmed, mainly trespassers, for months in prison while ignoring BLM and antifa rioters who attached people, looted and burned cities. Where is the justice in this?"

More than 10,000 people have been arrested around the US during the BLM protests, as police forces regularly use pepper spray, rubber bullets, teargas and batons on protesters, media and bystanders.

So, what are you talking about, Midge?

dljones54

Midge, thank you for your well-researched, fact-filled, truthful letter about Biden and his disastrous administration. His 38% approval rating says it all. I see the know-it-all libs are attacking as they normally do. One day they will take off their blinders and admit dementia Joe is harming America more than any other President. The red wave has started and will continue!

dejadoodoo

"jones"...It's not a "fact-filled, truthful letter" -- it's just one opinion. Lest you forget, everyone has opinions and are free to express them within certain civilized boundaries. Barring death, illness or other quirk, Biden will be our President for another three years. How you spend those three years is pretty much up to you...but I'll point out one little factoid: all your hate for Biden in particular and the Democrats in general doesn't mean a hill of beans...you still get to wait nearly three years to vote again. And here's the really good part: you live in a state that votes Democrat, so the chances of your "red wave" being meaningful are more hopeful feelings than anything else. Your vote is lumped into the whole state, so unless something remarkable happens in 2024, your "red wave" vote is simply not going to count.

I NEVER voted for a Clinton --ever -- but a couple years into the Trump presidency I knew that I would never vote for him again. If you don't like that your presidential vote may not get counted, then join me in voicing my hate for the Electoral College System. One Voter -- One Vote.

smedleyb

Yeah Midge, trespassers always build gallows at peaceful rallies.

garyd

You need to read Edith Carter's letter. Research.

olesage

Oh great .. another FaceBook researcher. Even though it won’t make a bit of difference to the author of this letter, here it goes .. point by point.

1.The author seems to have gotten their info from the following false claim circulating on FaceBook … "From energy independence for the first time in 50 years to gas shortages in 4 months. Quite an accomplishment.” This is 100% false.

Since 2019 the overall trend has been more energy production than consumption -- but there have been several months when the U.S. did not produce as much energy as it consumed, including December 2019, January, February and December 2020, and January 2021.

Just fact check the claim for goodness sake.

2. Admittedly immigration is a mess, but to use the wall as an argument. Not so much: Tunnels, firebombs, chain saws, and ladders all make a border wall (or other vertical barrier) impractical as a means of preventing illegal immigration.

3. The withdrawal was a disaster. Handled poorly. But to lay the blame solely at Biden’s feet when Trump had negotiated a withdrawal with the Taliban (who he also invited to Camp David)

Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

4. Love this one. “If you read the bill,” the author states. With of course, they had not.

The bill would provide $110 billion to repair the nation's aging highways, bridges and roads.

5. Got to love the way when a democrat is in office, all of a sudden debt matters.

Biden inherited substantial debt and deficit from the Trump administration. Despite promises to reduce the national debt, Trump, the self-proclaimed ‘king of debt’, instigated tax cuts that caused an expansive gap – with the national debt rising by almost $7.8trn – creating the third-biggest deficit increase of any presidential administration. 

6. This is so easily disproved and once again shows the author’s limited research abilitites.

Contrary to false claims circulating online, the National School Boards Association didn't ask President Joe Biden to label protesting parents "domestic terrorists,” and there's no indication Biden or the Justice Department called them terrorists, either.

7. Too ridiculous to even comment on. I guess .. let’s not believe our lyin’ eyes

dljones54

Olesage, stop watching CNN and getting your news from Twitter. This is not FB research....it is factual information that has libs running scared. There are dozens of news organizations that tell the truth and you would be wise to look them up, because your reply made you look very foolish and uninformed.

olesage

Please provide the facts that back up the writers claim that the infrastructure bill has nothing for roads and bridges.

I’ll save you time.

There is none. Your claim of facts with no back up or links prove you are the fool.

Momos

Yeah? Give us a link to three you think are worthwhile. Should be easy if there are dozens. I'm always open to reading another point of view.

Momos

"...because your (non)reply made you look very foolish and uninformed..." Nutters ghost when pressed for where they get "the real" information. It's really a very simple question. Must be embarrassing.

OregonTrail88

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dejadoodoo

Bonggg! "Aw, I liked that act -- but I also like boogers."

-- Chuck Barris (The Gong Show)

Daniel

Ummm, Midge, the attack on the Capitol and BLM protests took place during the previous administration. No Biden official called parents "terrorists. Just to point out a couple of the misstatements in your letter.

dljones54

Sorry, Daniel, but your statement claiming the Biden administration didn't refer to parents as "terrorists" is not true. AG Merrick Garland and others referred to parents standing up for their children at school board meetings as domestic terrorists and assigned the FBI to investigate them and treat them like criminals. Please watch some real news and have your facts straight before you respond.

OregonTrail88

Here's a simple task....Into your favorite search engine, type: School board members threatened.

You will be provided with an abundance of documented incidences across the country of school board members AND their family threatened with violence and death.

And no, the AG never termed 'parents' as the specific target in homegrown terrorism. But I will. If the shoe fits, wear it.

mworden

I'll say it too. People who make death threats, bomb threats or other violent threats in order to disrupt public proceedings and to scare school boards into inaction are terrorists. If they also happen to be parents, they are unfit parents.

People who find a way to defend death threats as free speech or the January 6 insurrectionists as peaceful protesters are stupid, evil or mentally ill. I have a lot of sympathy for people struggling with mental illness. The stupid and malevolent are a different matter.

CitizenJoe

Also, there is a tinfoil hat shortage.

dljones54

CitizenJoe, you are the first in line with your tinfoil hat. Do you have anything better to do but criticize anyone that doesn't believe the garbage you do?

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