Where has the flu gone?

Stop drinking the water!

Here we are in 2021 and for the past year, COVID-19 has dominated the media.

We no longer hear anything about the flu or cold season. If they call it COVID-19 they get extra funds from the government which comes from Joe Taxpayers' pocket.

My grandchildren were able to go back to school and within a week there were two presumed cases of COVID-19. Classes closed and children had to stay home. Families are affected and parents can’t go to work and all have to be tested. They should have tested the child and brought back the correct diagnoses and everything could have continued as normal. Let's be realistic and come out with the correct diagnoses the first time.

There are a few things that need to happen.

First, unless you are sick STOP BEING TESTED. All you are doing is driving the presumptive cases up and giving them a false number of actual COVID-19 cases. This will put all counties within the state under restriction back in the green and everyone back to work. A win-win for the state. Everyone is back working and the state starts receiving the taxes it needs to get back to doing business the taxpayers have elected them to do.

Next, go to your doctor and not these test sites to be tested. This will give you a more realistic answer. I am not saying that the test site is doing things wrong, but your health is not in their best interest. The medical professionals need to get back to work for you the patience and not the money. It doesn’t matter who is paying the bill they work for you and not the insurance company or government.

Benjamin Logan

Roseburg

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CitizenJoe

Benjamin and Rise:

It is far more complicated than you think. And--in the midst of that complexity--your simplistic assertions are simply contrary to the simplest of truths.

From The Guardian:

"[P]eople with extremist attitudes tended to think about the world in black and white terms, and struggled with complex tasks that required intricate mental steps, said lead author Dr Leor Zmigrod at Cambridge’s department of psychology.

“Individuals or brains that struggle to process and plan complex action sequences may be more drawn to extreme ideologies, or authoritarian ideologies that simplify the world,” she said."

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/feb/22/people-with-extremist-views-less-able-to-do-complex-mental-tasks-research-suggests

I trust that you both have read the BMJ and Lancet articles on Manaus, Brazil. Right?

Below is a bit more complexity.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/01/why-does-the-pandemic-seem-to-be-hitting-some-countries-harder-than-others

mworden

[thumbup] Complex problems require complex thinking in order to find solutions that will work. Unfortunately, complexity is difficult for too many people. This does not apply only to covid.

Daniel

Again Rise722, no one knows whether those who have recovered are immune from reinfection. There is some evidence to the contrary but there is lots of evidence that people who have recovered CAN infect others.

Citizen495

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NJ

Benjamin, Covid-19 has been in the news every day for a year because it's killed 498,000 people in the U.S. to date. Why would you be obsessing over colds and flu? Flu deaths account for 7% in relation to the number of Covid deaths. Colds are not even worth mentioning.

Covid-19, and its variant now in our State, has specific symptoms that are unlike the flu and those who enter a mass testing site or who call their doctor's office are screened for those specific symptoms before being tested. Testing is not rampant nor the issue you believe it to be. Further, there was never any real mass testing here in Douglas County. The Big Thinkers went with herd immunity, they didn't want testing. They wanted illness and death based solely on their misguided political convictions.

Here's another big surprise for you. Taxpayers pay for everything. It escapes me that folks take issue with spending money to end death, get small businesses back on their feet, put people back to work, and open schools, but are okay with billionaire tax breaks that taxpayers are now paying for. Your notion that money being spent to end this pandemic and it's continuing hardship is some sort of scam to hurt you financially. It sounds more like conspiracy with the goal to perpetuate division among us.

CitizenJoe

Where cold and flu season went: people distanced, masked, and washed hands. This has been the mildest season in years for just that reason. Duh, and double-duh.

Further: to the commenter who here repeats virological myths ad nauseum: people who have recovered from the virus *are* at risk for reinfection. Witness Manaus, Brazil. Now, the subject is complex and is a function of the kinds of testing, population characteristics, viral serotypes, and lots more.

Vaccine-induced immunity appears to be stronger and lasts longer (at least for mRNA vaccines) than immunity from infection.

But one thing appears certain: if you die of the disease, you are very unlikely to get reinfected.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n394

melrosereader

For those unaware, Joe's references are The Lancet and the British Medical Journal, two prestigious medical journals.

mworden

500,000 Americans have died of covid in the past year. Fewer Americans died in combat during our entire engagement in World War 2. Fewer died in Viet Nam and World War 1 combined. Life expectancy has been shortened by a year.

Will fewer people taking tests mean that fewer people will die? I'd really like to understand the kind of logic that's at work here. But I can't. I don't think it's any logic at all. Just the parroting of disinformation off right-wing news filtered through Facebook

Oh, yeah, about 3000 people died on 9/11. I'm not great at math, but that means 9/11 happened about 166 times this year.

Mike

You should celebrate DPHN is following your advice considering only 26 coronavirus test results were returned yesterday, the lowest number of one day tests since early September. I guess that is why Douglas County only had 14 new cases today because it only received 26 test results.

Gosh, we could eliminate coronavirus entirely in Douglas County if we follow your well thought-out opinion. All we need to do is quit testing.

garyd

Zero tests, zero cases.

NJ

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Rise722

And people need to learn the word "contagious." There seems to be an abnormal number of people who just can't grasp that people who recovered from the virus are no longer a risk.

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